And then she got to talking and she told me what all she had seen, you know.  She—Q:  Let’s go into—I know it’s hard for you to recall but if you would, kind of go into detail with it.  Everything that she told you.

A:  Well, she said that they were in bed.  Both of them was nude and they were all lovey-dovey and she got sick to her stomach.  And she had to rush out and she run out of the house and she went back down to the store and a—she wanted to call me but I didn’t give her my phone number so she couldn’t call me because she didn’t know where I lived.  So she stayed in the store and in a few minutes he come on down.  Then she left. 

Q:  Did she say whether or not he said anything to her when he first came in?

A:  Yeah.  He told her to keep her mouth shut or else….She says, “Cheryl,” she says, “he’s in love with him.”  I says, “He’s what?”  You know, I’ve heard about it but I’ve never really known anybody that was that way.  She was crying and I said, “Eunice,” I said, “what are you going to do?”  She said, “I don’t know, he just threatened, he said, he told me, if I didn’t keep my mouth shut that I knew what I was going to get.”  So I said, I said, “Have you told your mother?”  She said, “I called Momma a few minutes ago,” and she said, “they’re suppose to come down.” . . . So when he takes the insurance out on her—she—about two weeks after—he had taken the insurance out on her she come—then she called me.  And she says, “Cheryl I need somebody to talk to again.”  I said, “All right, I’ll be there in few minutes.”  So we met at Ronnie’s again.  And that’s when she told me he had taken out all that insurance on her. . . 

 So she says, “Now I am scared.”  She said, “But Momma said they’d be down Christmas Eve to pick me up—said then I’ll have everything straightened out where I can leave.”  I said, “What you gonna straighten around?”  She said, “Some things I got to take care of before I can leave,” and the next thing I heard she was—she was killed.

Q:  Okay.  What about the a—you knew now for a fact that [X] and Tommy were homosexuals.  What about [Y]3?  Did she ever have anything other than just her own suspicions about him also?

A:  All she had was just suspicions about him because, you know, he was buddy-buddy with them, too.  And she said he acted like [X] did towards Tommy, but she had never caught [Y] with him like she did [X].  It just tore her up.

Q:  I imagine it did.

A:  She—she was a sweet girl.

3          Another well-known Orange County man who was known to associate with Zeigler.